Among thousands of men, hardly one strives for perfection and of those who do, scarcely !!!

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31st January 2013, Thursday

Maagh Krishna Chaturthi,  Vikram Samvat 2069, Guruvaar

It has come in the Gita -

Manushyaanaam sahasstrshu kaschidhyatati sidhyaye
Yatataamapi siddhaanaam kaschinmaam vetti tattvatah   (Gita 7/3)

Among thousands of men, hardly one strives for perfection and of those who do, scarcely

31st January 2013, Thursday

Maagh Krishna Chaturthi,  Vikram Samvat 2069, Guruvaar

 

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It has come in the Gita -

Manushyaanaam sahasstrshu kaschidhyatati sidhyaye
Yatataamapi siddhaanaam kaschinmaam vetti tattvatah   (Gita 7/3)

Among thousands of men, hardly one strives for perfection and of those who do, scarcely one knows Me in Essence.   (Gita 7/3)

It does not mean that enlightenment is difficult.   It means that the listener does not pay attention.  Out of thousands of men, a single individual listens properly, and does spiritual practices for attaining enlightenment.   Those who have reached an advanced state after doing much spiritual practice,  out of such accomplished persons, one person knows the Essence.  In this way, in this verse man’s general state and case has been described.   The description is not of the difficulty in attaining enlightenment.  After describing the super-natural state of enlightenment,  God says –

Aascharyavatpashyati kashrichden –

Maashcharyavadveti tathaiva chaanyah |

Aashcharyachainmanyah shrunoti |

Shrutvaapyenam veda na chaiva kashchit ||    (Gita 2/29)

“One beholds the in-dweller in the body as astonishing, another speaks of It as marvelous; another hears of It as a phenomenon, yet another having heard, knows It not.”

Experience, description of that Essence etc.  all happens in a remarkable way, not like worldly talks.  The reason for saying “anya” is that of the many who have realized the Essence, there is only one who can describe it.  All who have realized cannot describe it.  Even on hearing, no one knows; because he does not listen with concentration and with a genuine quest to know.

“Out of those perfected souls that were endeavoring,  only one knows Me in Essence”  –  the meaning of this is that by endeavoring,  in other words, it is only on having an intense longing that one can know enlightenment, and “on hearing  this too no one knows”,  by saying this it means, that simply by listening,  i.e. through practice no one can know the Essence.   In practice the predominance is of the mind-intellect, whereas through longing automatically on it own the Eternal Essence that is present manifests itself.

 

If this is heard through an experienced person,   then there is a certain power that enters.   But all men cannot grasp his talks.   Because the experience that the speaker has  he cannot convey that through his speech.   Whatever is his experience, that much cannot come into his intellect.  And whatever comes into his intellect,  that much does not come into his mind.  The amount that enters the mind,  that much does not come into his speech.   Whatever comes in his speech, that much does not reach the listeners ears.  Whatever reaches the ears,  that much the mind cannot contemplate.  The extent of talks that the mind contemplates on, that much the intellect cannot make decisions on.  The decision that are firmed in the intellect,  that much does not come into the listeners experience.   In this manner if you look from the perspective of the entire sequence of events, there is vast gap in experience of the speaker and that of the listener.    But if the listener has a deep quest and if he listens attentively with concentration, then very quickly he can experience the same.    (to be continued)

From “Jit Dekhu Tit Tu” in Hindi by Swami Ramsukhdasji.

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one knows Me in Essence.   (Gita 7/3)

It does not mean that enlightenment is difficult.   It means that the listener does not pay attention.  Out of thousands of men, a single individual listens properly, and does spiritual practices for attaining enlightenment.   Those who have reached an advanced state after doing much spiritual practice,  out of such accomplished persons, one person knows the Essence.  In this way, in this verse man’s general state and case has been described.   The description is not of the difficulty in attaining enlightenment.  After describing the super-natural state of enlightenment,  God says –

Aascharyavatpashyati kashrichden –

Maashcharyavadveti tathaiva chaanyah |

Aashcharyachainmanyah shrunoti |

Shrutvaapyenam veda na chaiva kashchit ||    (Gita 2/29)

“One beholds the in-dweller in the body as astonishing, another speaks of It as marvelous; another hears of It as a phenomenon, yet another having heard, knows It not.”

Experience, description of that Essence etc.  all happens in a remarkable way, not like worldly talks.  The reason for saying “anya” is that of the many who have realized the Essence, there is only one who can describe it.  All who have realized cannot describe it.  Even on hearing, no one knows; because he does not listen with concentration and with a genuine quest to know.

“Out of those perfected souls that were endeavoring,  only one knows Me in Essence”  –  the meaning of this is that by endeavoring,  in other words, it is only on having an intense longing that one can know enlightenment, and “on hearing  this too no one knows”,  by saying this it means, that simply by listening,  i.e. through practice no one can know the Essence.   In practice the predominance is of the mind-intellect, whereas through longing automatically on it own the Eternal Essence that is present manifests itself.

 

If this is heard through an experienced person,   then there is a certain power that enters.   But all men cannot grasp his talks.   Because the experience that the speaker has  he cannot convey that through his speech.   Whatever is his experience, that much cannot come into his intellect.  And whatever comes into his intellect,  that much does not come into his mind.  The amount that enters the mind,  that much does not come into his speech.   Whatever comes in his speech, that much does not reach the listeners ears.  Whatever reaches the ears,  that much the mind cannot contemplate.  The extent of talks that the mind contemplates on, that much the intellect cannot make decisions on.  The decision that are firmed in the intellect,  that much does not come into the listeners experience.   In this manner if you look from the perspective of the entire sequence of events, there is vast gap in experience of the speaker and that of the listener.    But if the listener has a deep quest and if he listens attentively with concentration, then very quickly he can experience the same.    (to be continued)

From “Jit Dekhu Tit Tu” in Hindi by Swami Ramsukhdasji.

FOR MESSAGE IN HINDI PLEASE VISIT – 

  http://www.satcharcha.blogspot.com/            

Date : 27th January 2013      (Satsang Sunneki Vidya)

 

Ram Ram

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Physician who is providing free service to the needy since 1971. Rajendra M. Trivedi, M.D. who is Yoga East Medical Advisor www.yogaeast.net/index.htm http://www.yogaeast.net/index.htm Graduated in 1968 from B. J. Medical College, Amadavad, India. Post Graduate training in Neurological Surgery from Charles University in Czechoslovakia. 1969 - 71. and received Czechoslovakian Government Scholarship. Completed training at the Cambridge Hospital and Harvard University in Psychiatry. Rajendra M. trivedi is an Attending Psychiatrist at Baldpate Hospital. He is the Medical Director of CCA and Pain Center in Stoneham, MA where he has been serving the community since 1971 as a Physician. OTHER AFFILIATIONS: Lifer of APA - American Psychiatrist Association Senior Physician and Volunteer with Massachusetts Medical Society and a Deligate of the Middlesex District. www.massmed.org Patron member of AAPI - American Association of PHYSICIANS OF INDIA. LIFE MEMBER OF IMANE - Indian Medical Association of New England. Member of the Board of Advisors "SAHELI, Boston,MA. www.saheliboston.org/About1/A_Board Dr. Trivedi is working closely with the Perkin's School for the Blind. www.perkins.org. Dr. Trivedi is a Life member and Honorary Volunteer for the Fund Raising Contact for North America of BPA - Blind People Association of Amadavad, India. www.bpaindia.org Dr.Trivedi is the Medical Advisor for Yoga East since 1993. He is a Physician who started Health Screening and Consultation At Shri Dwarkami Clinic in Billerica, MA. https://www.dwarkamai.com/health-and-wellness

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