I have watched brilliant men, arguing over the origins of the universe on TV.People getting tangled up with what was before. And how nature is a ware zone.
A technical technique I have used called Lissajous, will reveal one frequency among a multitude, simply by using the right reference. I think using the right reference can expose among the dross the TRUTH.I don’t believe modern western thinking will get there, unless courage is shown in the understanding that the intellect is a very long road.
I am trying to be introspective, not intellectual. There is a question here, something to do with multitude and singularity of the MIND, (CONSCIOUSNESS?).
Any insights based on the Gita ?

Yours in respect,


Shree Hari:

 Just like at present, this hall is illumed by the sun light, and in this light there is no coming and going.This light is naturally present. Similarly for illuminating this entire universe, there is that essential Consciousness. Just like the Sun illumes all, similarly for all fields the illuminator is the “knower of the
field”. All you have to know is that He (Supreme Consciousness) is the illuminator of all. Whatever you may do, but that illumination is there as IS. In this hall if some one comes and some one goes away, if entire hall is completely filled up, then too, there will be no change in the light. Even if it is completely empty, then too there is no change in the light. That light (illumination) remains as is. Similiarly the illuminator of this entire Universe, remains as is. If the world does all kinds of activity or it does not. In the day time all work gets done and at night all are sleeping and resting, then too there is no difference in the illumination, and that light continues to illume the entire Universe. It illumes the field and the knower of the field. It does not create the light. When the Sun arrives, there is automatically light. Sun is not generating any light, it has the natural tendency and strength to illume. Similarly that Supreme Consciousness remains
as IS, at all times and eternally, and activities that takes place, all take place in nature. It is that Supreme Consciousness that illuminates all. And that illumination simply happens.Our essential state is naturally in that light (consciousness).
All beings are naturally established in that consciousness. But instead we begin to consider the one that is being illumed as real. We gave it (the one being illumed) a reality and we gave it importance. This is the reason for bondage. The existence and importance of the reality of all beings in nature has been given by
us. Therefore it is up to us to remove it. This has not been given by God. It has been created by us.God’s consciousness is equally present everywhere. This is a simple and straightforward point. All fields are being illumed and all that is illumed, we have given it a reality and importance, even though in reality this illumination is not it’s own.

“Nasotovidhyate bhavah” “The unreal has no existence.” (Gita 2:16). It never was, it will not remain afterwards and it is changing every moment. At first, there was non-existence of the world (before
creation), then later, there will be non-existence of the world (after destruction), and while it appears to be existing right now, it too is constantly changing. It does not have an existence of it’s own. It is the existence of the illuminator that is giving it a feeling of existence. That is all there is to it. God (Supreme Consciousness) is the illuminator of all. This is the simple straight forward point. Only that consciousness IS. IT is not the giver of the reality to all, IT is not the creator ofexistence of all, IT simple IS. When one realizes the existence of that one and only Supreme Consciousness, then one realizes that there is only God. Not “All is God” “Vasudeva Sarvam” but only
God “Vasudeva” (Supreme Consciousness) .

From Discourse in Hindi by Swami Ramsukhdasji on October 2, 2004
at 5:00 a.m.

For full online discourses in Hindi, please visit SwamiRamsukhdasji’s website.


About dhavalrajgeera

Physician who is providing free service to the needy since 1971. Rajendra M. Trivedi, M.D. who is Yoga East Medical Advisor Graduated in 1968 from B. J. Medical College, Amadavad, India. Post Graduate training in Neurological Surgery from Charles University in Czechoslovakia. 1969 - 71. and received Czechoslovakian Government Scholarship. Completed training at the Cambridge Hospital and Harvard University in Psychiatry. Rajendra M. trivedi is an Attending Psychiatrist at Baldpate Hospital. He is the Medical Director of CCA and Pain Center in Stoneham, MA where he has been serving the community since 1971 as a Physician. OTHER AFFILIATIONS: Lifer of APA - American Psychiatrist Association Senior Physician and Volunteer with Massachusetts Medical Society and a Deligate of the Middlesex District. Patron member of AAPI - American Association of PHYSICIANS OF INDIA. LIFE MEMBER OF IMANE - Indian Medical Association of New England. Member of the Board of Advisors "SAHELI, Boston,MA. Dr. Trivedi is working closely with the Perkin's School for the Blind. Dr. Trivedi is a Life member and Honorary Volunteer for the Fund Raising Contact for North America of BPA - Blind People Association of Amadavad, India. Dr.Trivedi is the Medical Advisor for Yoga East since 1993. He is a Physician who started Health Screening and Consultation At Shri Dwarkami Clinic in Billerica, MA.

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